GOBICE

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tommyownzz
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OdgovorNapisal/-a tommyownzz » 15 Nov 2010, 22:57

lahko poješ sveže, ki so bolj potentne ampak jih moras pojest cim prej. V hladilniku zdrzijo kskn tedn. Pa še večjo količino jih mores pojest

Če pa jih maš namen kasnej pojest pa jih kr posuš, čeprov bodo manj potentne.

cannaboy
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OdgovorNapisal/-a cannaboy » 15 Nov 2010, 23:00

aha hvala zveže pa tudi posušene pa lahko mam v podobni vrečki kot travo?

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jah
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Re: GOBICE

OdgovorNapisal/-a jah » 16 Nov 2010, 01:22

logika ti tudi deluje vredi. Da lahko imaš sveže u vrečki, po pomožnosti dej še na radjator pa še mal vode zmešane z riževo moko dodej u vrečko boš vidu kok bo poj butnl, če imaš rad plesen. Vonj bo še bolj izrazit.
Čist tko off topic pa ne zamet a si že 13+ ?


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konoplaj
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Pridružen: 03 Maj 2010, 16:21

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OdgovorNapisal/-a konoplaj » 16 Nov 2010, 10:58



tole pa meni ratuje počasi =) sam me zanima če so tist ko sem označu z črno (krogece) že pini ....al se micelj tako razvija po mycoboxi.? ja pa vse polno takih bunkic je blo učeri ..dans jih je pa že več

cannaboy
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OdgovorNapisal/-a cannaboy » 16 Nov 2010, 12:35

ja glej pomoje če zrak ne pride zraven v vrečko ne splesnivijo

mushmare
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OdgovorNapisal/-a mushmare » 16 Nov 2010, 13:33

zdravo. je priporočljivo natočit malo vode okoli micoboxa v vrečki? al tistih 12h namakanja in potem nič niti škropit? je pametno odpirat vrečko, če, na koliko in za koliko časa? hvala

konoplaj
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OdgovorNapisal/-a konoplaj » 16 Nov 2010, 14:19

@mushmare....js sem mnde glih z tem zajebu situacijo ko sm neki oodpiru pa zraču tist..mycobox ma gor nek filter za zrak ki sodi k izmenjavi plinov in zraka al kak že ...no škropit pa tud ni mus kr se tak sama vlaga not nabere če maš 24stopinj.

najbolš je mnda tak nardit ko kažejo oni filčki na marlek .si......oziroma še prešat kirga ko ma več izkušn s tem.

em ja .. ka pa pravte na mojo sliko ...so to pini al se micelj tak čudno obnaša????

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jah
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OdgovorNapisal/-a jah » 16 Nov 2010, 14:26

Quote:

mam v podobni vrečki kot travo?



Quote:

ja glej pomoje če zrak ne pride zraven v vrečko ne splesnivijo




A ti mas travo ponavadi u kaki vakumsko iztisnjenih vreckah?
Če ja potem toliko bolje za gobe, kar se skladiscenja tiče.
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uncle_bud
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OdgovorNapisal/-a uncle_bud » 16 Nov 2010, 18:35

Hehehe, kako se je razvila tema odkar ima marlek.si na voljo spore.
Tukaj je nekaj za tiste ki hočejo stopit 1korak višje


4-Hydroxy-5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine, Psilocybe mushrooms, Psilocin
Dear Dr. Shulgin:

I have been puzzled, why this compound (4-HO-5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine) wasn't included in TIHKAL -- for me it looks very appealing. Have you by the way, ever looked into cathinone (beta-keto-amphetamine) analogues of some of the psychedelic amphetamines (DOB, TMA-2, etc.) The MDMA-analogue (Methylone) is active indeed, do you think the 2,4-5-substitution pattern could be applied onto the CATs?

_Anon_

Dear _Anon_,

I totally agree with you.

4-Hydroxy-5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine would be a fascinating compound to explore. The reason it's not in TIKHAL is that it is virtually unknown. The only report of it in the chemical literature was a paper published by Marc Julia's group at the Pasteur Institute in 1965. They reported the synthesis and physical properties of the compound but to my knowledge it has never been explored in any way. The synthesis is quite a frightening thing. It starts with ortho-vanillin and takes approximately 10 steps to get to the 4,5-HO-MeO-DMT. I'm not surprised that no one has pursued the compound.

However there is a very interesting study that took place in Leipzig about 15 years ago. Jochen Gartz, a mushroom explorer whom I know quite well, has done some fascinating studies with Psilocybe species by raising them on solid media containing strange tryptamines that are alien to the mushroom. Apparently the enzymes that are responsible for the 4-hydroxy group of psilocin are indifferent to what it is they choose to 4-hydroxylate. He has taken things like DPT or DIPT and put them in the growth media and the fruiting bodies that came out contain 4-hydroxy-DPT or 4-hydroxy-DIPT instead of psilocin. In fact, he has a patent on the process. These active compounds are made by the mushroom so they really are natural and yet they never have been observed in nature. I'll give you even odds that if you put spores of a psilocybe species on cow droppings loaded with 5-MeO-DMT you would come out with mushrooms containing 4,5-HO-MeO-DMT. This way you avoid a 10 step synthesis by growing a psychoactive mushroom that contains no illegal drug.

Your idea of making analogues of the psychoactive amphetamines with the carbonyl that is characteristic of CAT would probably be a disappointment. Cathinone itself is rather unstable because there is a primary amine and a ketone in the same molecule. It will tend to dimerize and become inactive. In the example of METHYLONE (as with methcathinone) the amine is a secondary amine and the compound is quite stable. But all of the psychoactive amphetamines (except for MDMA) are primary amines.

- Dr. Shulgin

Vir : http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/blg/index.html
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mushmare
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OdgovorNapisal/-a mushmare » 17 Nov 2010, 14:17

evo pravkar namočil mycobox. zanima me ali je pomembno na kaksni temperaturi se namaka. v sobi mam okol 25 in trenutno počiva pred mano na mizi.


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