Skunk vs. domačica

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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a sense » 05 Feb 2012, 03:09

Jst mam pa en svoj mnenje o temu, skunk je seveda indor, dobimo semena skunka ,ki uspevajo tudi outdoor.

Razlika, skunk ma name zlo čudn efekt, po pravic mi ne paše, tako kot večini mojih znancev ne.

Po domačici se da presodt, kaj naredi narava in kaj naredi kemija, luči ali uv žarki. Tudi okus je poseben, nemoreš falit okusa, vonja, skunk smrdi, po dihurju seveda hehe. Domača pa ima 1000 in en vonj, kot čaji od 1000 in en cvet:)

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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a izzy » 05 Feb 2012, 09:57

dost raje imam zunaj gojeno kot pa to kemijo...

mipro
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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a mipro » 05 Feb 2012, 10:22

Sicer nevem od kje vam, da je vse kar je notri skunk ampak ok.Skunk je le ime za nekaj izmed par tisoč vrst cannabisa, ki se ga goji po svetu, isto kot razni HAZE-i, KUSH-i, WIDOW-i..... vse pa je al indica, al sativa al pa cross med tem dvema in v primeru avtoflowering sorte še ruderalis-a.In če katerokoli to seme skunka( naj bo to skunk#1 ,skunk#11,lemon skunk itd..) posadimo zunaj bo raslo, če le bojo pogoji taki kot jih zahteva. In zaradi tega bo še vedno skunk in ne domačica. (pika). In ni rečeno da je indoor kemija, saj raste ravno tako v zemlji, in če gnojiš z raznim bio gnojili( kot so guano, bikova kri...) ni tu nič kemije, edino svetloba je umetna.

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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a izzy » 05 Feb 2012, 10:42

Zavedam se, da je skunk le sorta, ampak vedno ko smo naleteli na debato smo se skoraj pobili, tako da sem jaz sedaj le bol poenostavljeno rekel. No osebno imam rad bol šibko travo ne da me po enem malem odpizdi do neba.

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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a sethom » 05 Feb 2012, 10:42

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Jst mam pa en svoj mnenje o temu, skunk je seveda indor, dobimo semena skunka ,ki uspevajo tudi outdoor.

Razlika, skunk ma name zlo čudn efekt, po pravic mi ne paše, tako kot večini mojih znancev ne.

Po domačici se da presodt, kaj naredi narava in kaj naredi kemija, luči ali uv žarki. Tudi okus je poseben, nemoreš falit okusa, vonja, skunk smrdi, po dihurju seveda hehe. Domača pa ima 1000 in en vonj, kot čaji od 1000 in en cvet:)




sory sam stem se pa stabo nemorem strinjat...
pr skuni se vid kok ma gojitelj izkušenj in prej razlikujem vonje pr skuni ker so izredno lepši in izrazitejši kot pa pri domači
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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a setheh » 05 Feb 2012, 16:30

@mipro, dobro povedano. Nekateri mislijo, da je skunk neka kemijsko vzgojena konoplja ipd.

Citat iz strani Dutch Passion:
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What is skunk? Unfortunately for some smokers ‘skunk’ has simply become another generic word for cannabis, but true Skunk is a quite independent strain with its origins dating back to the 1970’s. Skunk remains a top quality strain that offers an excellent ‘high’ with good yields, it is also a forgiving strain which can grow well under a range of conditions indoors, outdoors and in greenhouses. Even today, the combination of qualities which made Skunk famous are still used as a benchmark against which other strains are measured.

In some countries, such as the UK, the term ‘skunk’ no longer necessarily refers to a specific strain but is a general term which refers to good quality marijuana of perhaps unknown genetic origin. Young people in several countries are increasingly calling their home-grown ganja ‘skunk’. Not only is the generalisation ‘Skunk’ inaccurate, it also undermines the true genetic identity of the weed.

In order to preserve the true Skunk heritage Dutch Passion have trademarked their original Skunk #1 name. The other ‘quality’ seedbanks are also quite clear which of their strains have true skunk lineage. The remaining seed suppliers may be supplying reasonable quality strains that use the ‘skunk’ name but this does not necessarily mean that the strains still resemble the original skunk.

The Acapulco Gold and Colombian Gold strains were top quality sensimillas of their day and even today they would still be highly appreciated though are difficult to find in their original form. These strains were popular with breeders in the 60’s and 70’s and old timers will remember them for their great unbeatable ‘highs’. Incidentally, it is quite ridiculous that some of the modern anti-cannabis prejudice is based on the so called ‘fact’ that todays dope is very strong whilst that grown 30 or 40 years ago was comparatively weak. That is simply not true, ask anyone that can remember how good the weed was back in the 1960’s. Acapulco Gold even manages to get several mentions in songs from bands such as Rush, Soda Stereo, The New Riders and more recently the rapper MF Doom. Colombian Gold was a similarly iconic and highly potent strain.

People have been enjoying good quality weed (10%+ THC levels) for thousands of years. Strong weed is not just a modern phenomena, there has always been strong weed. But unfortunately the anti-cannabis crusaders like to have a ‘key’ argument to maintain the illegality of the worlds favourite herb. 20 years ago they claimed cannabis should be illegal since it is a sinister ‘gateway drug’ that leads invariably to heroin. That argument was of course debunked as utter nonsense, so it has now been replaced with a new argument.... “modern weed should not be smoked since it is several times more potent than that used by the hippies in the 1970’s”.

Again, the argument is false and like so much anti-cannabis rhetoric the arguments are based on hype and prejudice rather than logic and fact. No wonder the cannabis community are doing their best to replace bigoted intolerance with science-based fact. Remember too that cannabis has been used medically and recreationally for thousands of years without killing anyone. It has only been illegal for the last century and during that time its popularity has, ironically, boomed like never before and is showing no signs of diminishing. If cannabis was made illegal to limit its use then the strategy has backfired in spectacular style and the approach needs a radical overhaul. In the 21st century cannabis is used safely and responsibly by more people than ever before, all the anti-cannabis laws are doing at the moment is criminalising large sections of society.

But back to the original question, what is skunk? We use the words ‘painstaking and careful’ to describe the creation of skunk since this strain was developed to preserve potency whilst retaining a desirably low ratio of leaves to buds. This allowed the strain to deliver excellent yields with long, thick bud growth. The low leaf ratio makes this an easy strain to manicure after harvest. Some of the lesser so called ‘skunk’ strains are easily identifiable by the compromises made during breeding which deliver reduced yields.

Skunk#1 was stabilised as a true breeding variety in the 70’s and has been inbred by Dutch Passion since 1978 making it one of the most consistent and predictable strains available today. The dense and luxuriously thick buds may be susceptible to mold in the last stages of flowering simply because of the sheer quantity of the buds produced. The buds themselves may vary in colour from green to a beautiful gold appearance. Despite the very obvious and characteristically strong smell the Skunk buds also possess an alluring sweet and soft scent, try running your fingers through a mature Skunk #1 female and smell the wonderful aroma it imparts. The ‘high’ is of course quite excellent and it set the world alight in the 70’s when skunk was the strain that everyone wanted to talk about and grow for themselves. Even today many feel the Skunk high is quite unbeatable. For Dutch Passion the Skunk strains sell massive quantities of seeds and this allows the seeds themselves to be mass produced at very affordable prices.

Of course, genetics of the quality possessed by Skunk#1 are popular with breeders/seed producers and Skunk has been extensively used for cross breeding. When Dutch Passion themselves have produced other Skunk varieties they have been very cautious to only use the ‘Skunk’ name when the master breeders have produced a variety which is absolutely ‘true’ to the skunk heritage. In Dutch Passions case, Skunk #11 is one example of a strain which justifiably bares the ‘Skunk’ name. Skunk #11 was the first Dutch Passion strain to sell a million seeds and remains an undisputed classic. Ultra Skunk, Skunk Passion and Orange Bud are other examples of top quality members of the Dutch Passion Skunk family.

So Skunk is not just a general term that should be used as a blanket description for all weed, it should remain a term used only for a very specific strain or family. But remember also that many of the so called ‘skunk’ varieties available today often bear very little resemblance to the true genetic heritage of this cannabis classic. If you want to try growing some original Skunk we strongly recommend that you opt for a strain from one of the proven and longest established seedbanks that can trace their skunk breeding right back to the original lines.


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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a sense » 05 Feb 2012, 21:33

Kot je reku prjatu zgorej, spet bi se kregal ampak se nebomo.

Kaj pa hydro growing? Kdo pa danes še goji kvaliteten skunk v zemlji? Pa 1000 hps žarnice in toliko in toliko lumnov, ki jih sonce ne proizvede zaradi pravšnje oddaljnosti, luči se pa pač po želji spušča in dviga, da ne rečem folija, odboj svetlobe, nebi o tem, ni naravno, enostavno. zaključujem...


Vsakemu svoje..

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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a Descartes » 05 Feb 2012, 23:58

Samo glede sonca pa 1000w hps zarnic bi povedal, da sonce odvisno od oblacnosti na kvadratni meter odda 100-1000w, hps pa jih toliko uporabi. S tem da pri hps gre ogromno energije v toploto in malo v svetlobo. To je tudi razlog, zakaj rabis ogromne ventilatorje, ki potem growroom hladijo.

Posledicno odda sonce vec energije v obliki fotonov kakor hps zarnica nobena tehnologija nebo mogla popolnoma nadomestiti naravo. Fat old sun je se zmeraj vir zivljenja na zemlji

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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a lasulja » 06 Feb 2012, 10:24

sense skunk je bil narejen v kaliforniji primarno za outdoor in greenhouse growing. pa tako ti povem, pravi skunk posajen pod soncem je odlicna zadeva,
zjeban pregnojen indoor je pa druga zadeva, ki nima veze s skunkom. Dober pravilno narejen indoor je tudi super za kadit in spet ni skunk
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mipro
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Re: Skunk vs. domačica

OdgovorNapisal/-a mipro » 06 Feb 2012, 17:43

Sense. Praviš kdo ? Tist k zase dela, in ki ma nekaj pojma in mu ni za comercial grow.


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