Energija na vodo/Hydrogen on demand

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gozdar
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Re: Energija na vodo/Hydrogen on demand

OdgovorNapisal/-a gozdar » 06 Mar 2011, 12:54

Pogoste težave:
http://marlek.com/problem/N - Dušik
http://marlek.com/problem/Mg - Magnezij

tomi66
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Re: Energija na vodo/Hydrogen on demand

OdgovorNapisal/-a tomi66 » 06 Mar 2011, 13:06

Lahko, da je kontra info.
Tukaj ga podpira "Head theoretical physics" in pravi "he'd make energy almost free", torej ne popolnoma.
Stan Meyer's cell
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tomi66
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Re: Energija na vodo/Hydrogen on demand

OdgovorNapisal/-a tomi66 » 06 Mar 2011, 19:28

Saj jaz v bistvu tudi, v apriori verjamem, toda dokoncno le takrat, ko se sam prepricam.
Sem pa optimist za preveriti in se veselim ze v naprej, kao, kaj ce bo delovalo, bo noro.
Sedaj studiram malo okoli in sem ugotovil, da vsekakor je mesanica vodik in becin bolj ugodna, nizja temperatura motorja, manjsa poraba(do 50%) in do 30% vecja moc.

Hydrogen is the most flammable of all the known substances.
To pomaga, exploziven je pri 10-15% mesanici s kisikom, kar pomeni, da rabi veliko kisika za reakcijo, hitra reakcija, na pamet 4 Mache, brez aditivov(ki lahko drasticno pojacajo reakcijo), kar je tudi ugodno.
Read more: http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elemen...

Sam sem nabavil ze ves potreben material(agregat, 60A trafote itd), tudi za hisno energetiko (elektrika na agregat in centralna kurjava), toda se se nisem spravil zmontirat.
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tomi66
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Re: Energija na vodo/Hydrogen on demand

OdgovorNapisal/-a tomi66 » 07 Mar 2011, 00:35

Water4Gas system->
To je pri izredno neefektivni celici(JamJar) in ze s tako, dobis rezultate, kot tale->
Has anybody of you ever tried to put HHO into a ICE? Not? So what do you really know about it? If you think that websites like water4gas and others are a scam, well, that may be true. But please, before telling it's impossible to improve fuel milage by HHO as a fact, have a look at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wate...
This a forum with more than 8000 really active members, free plans to build a unit on the cheep (have a look at the Smack!), a lot of support, and based on the idea of Open Source Engineering.
By the way, i have built a device based on ideas and results of this forum, and my car (a 1999 Peugeot 406 Turbo Diesel) takes about 3 liters of Diesel for 100 km since putting the cell into it. Before that milage was about 5,6 l /100 km (Sorry, don't know how much it is in MPG)
So please don't mind to inform yourself, there had been thousands of people telling others that men will never be able to fly, that a walk on the moon will be impossible, and that gasoline is the only solution to move a car! Read and learn by yourself, and btw: There is no break of the first or second law of themodynamics in the unit i have built, it's just improoving fuel eficiencys.


Kaj sele z zelo sofisticirano "stainless steel" posodo, in z 2MHz atomizacijsko frekvenco, NaOH elektrolitom in se dodatnimi aditivi(Nikelj,Platina->izboljsa reakcijo) in se bi se naslo za izboljsave.
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tomi66
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Re: Energija na vodo/Hydrogen on demand

OdgovorNapisal/-a tomi66 » 09 Mar 2011, 00:25

Naslednja stvar je pa alternativna extrakcija vodika,
ker je energetski lobi najmocnejsi(mocnejsi od vojaskega in farmacevtskega), je najbolj verjetno to nezazeljeno, toda izgleda, da je dolocenim uspelo na experimentalnem nivoju, brez teoreticne razlage in s pomankljivo zanesljivostjo,
je pa zadosti, da vidimo, da je mogoce.

Water can be broken into Hydrogen and Oxygen using electricity. Standard chemistry books claim that this process requires more energy than can be recovered when the gases are recombined. This is true only under the worst case scenario. When water is hit with its own molecular resonant frequency, using a system developed by Stan Meyers (USA) and again recently by Xogen Power, Inc., it collapses into Hydrogen and Oxygen gas with very little electrical input. Also, using different electrolytes (additives that make the water conduct electricity better) changes the efficiency of the process dramatically. It is also known that certain geometric structures and surface textures work better than others do. The implication is that unlimited amounts of Hydrogen fuel can be made to drive engines (like in your car) for the cost of water. Even more amazing is the fact that a special metal alloy was patented by Freedman (USA) in 1957 that spontaneously breaks water into Hydrogen and Oxygen with no outside electrical input and without causing any chemical changes in the metal itself. This means that this special metal alloy can make Hydrogen from water for free, forever.

Ce imate cas in zanimanje, preglejte primere(tudi YouTube)
elektrolize z lastno resonancno frekvenco.
npr.electrolysis with self resonant frequency, hydrogen production using self resonant frequency ipd
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Re: Energija na vodo/Hydrogen on demand

OdgovorNapisal/-a Some1 » 09 Mar 2011, 00:43

Hmm jaz nebom rekel, da ni možno, ker vem, da nas lobiji nategujejo po dolgem in počez. Sploh tale naftni je zmagovalec. Tehnologija uporabe vodika oz. elektrike za avtomobilsko industrijo je bila sigurno razvita že 10 let nazaj ali pa še več. In še vedno ni na trgu nobene pametne alternative nafti? Le zakaj?

Torej tomi, če bi dejansko tole delovali bi lahko uporabljal vodik, ki bi ga sam pridelal za ogrevanje hiše. Mogoče v kombinaciji z oljem?

Tole bi pa res rad videl v živo, če deluje ali je samo en blef

Si predstavljate kaj bi bilo v svetu, če zadeva dejansko deluje in bi ljudje opustili goriva proiz. iz nafte? Zlom svetovnega gospodarstva in vojna

tomi66
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Re: Energija na vodo/Hydrogen on demand

OdgovorNapisal/-a tomi66 » 09 Mar 2011, 00:49

Je res mrzlica -> koliko ljudi vrta v vodik iz vode(v ZDA, experimentalne elektrolize), da pomislis, mora biti nekaj na temu.
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